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- From: dcorn@paradise.pplnet.com (David Corn)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
- Subject: Re: Why are europeans dumb enough to buy amigas?
- Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:14:11 GMT
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- On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:50:19 +0000, "Mr. Pink" <smh2@aber.ac.uk>
- wrote:
-
- >Where did other games classics such as Lemmings, Populous etc Originate?
-
- Why should anyone care? All of the -current- games are best on the
- PC. Are you really going to keep playing Lemmings/Populous forever?
-
- >Now, in that little 'conversation', I mentioned that dirty word to PC owners -
- >multitasking. Could I just take this opportunity to congratulate them on the arrival of
- >Win 95. (Ignoring OS2 - it just doesnt seem to have been given the support it
- >deserved)......
-
- WFWG worked OK for me for quite a while. It multitasked, ran great
- apps, and so on and so forth. Did you ever try it?
-
- >Win 95 system requirements: at least a 486sx 33 (?) (DX2 66+ recommended), with 4mb ram
- >(8mb+ recommended), and 50mbHD space (?).
- >Amiga workbench requirements: An amiga.
-
- Funny, but not true. It requires a 386-class processor (ie with MMU)
- and 4M of RAM, although 8M is the practical limit.
-
- The Amiga requires just an Amiga, but the resolution starts at a
- laughable 640x200x4 colors, and the maximum normal WB screen is
- 640x400x256 colors. It's a joke. No OLE, no Internet, no networking,
- no extensive customized OS-wide modem support, no modern printer
- support, and plenty of other stupid problems. Sorry, but with 486/100
- processors costing next to nothing, and motherboard upgrades being
- dirt cheap, the Amiga's memory-leanness have only held it back.
-
- >So, you buy your 486sx33 4mb PC for about the same price as an A1200. Your A1200 is all
- >set to go, Everything is on its (admittedly small) HD. Your PC sits their waiting for
- >you to go out and buy Win 95. Another 80 quid or so. Yay, we are multitasking. Not as
- >quickly as the A1200 tho. Oh well, lets buy some more RAM. Apparently that makes it
- >faster. Cool, another 100 quid spent. Things have improved, but not by much. Lets see
- >what we can do. A new processsor you say? Ooooh, lets go pentium. P60 good enough?
- >yeah! .......
-
- Again, this is silly. No one buys new 486/33s these days; the current
- low end is a P75, and very soon it will be a P100. The Pentium makes
- Win95 fly.
-
- >Oh the subject of Win 95, a couple of points. Plug and Play. HAven't amigas had
- >basically the same thing for years?
-
- Not really. They've had autoconfig. The user still has to mess with
- setting up the software on the Amiga.
-
- >Take the example:
- >I put a second HD in my machine. Plug in, switch on. Machine sits there. For a whole 5
- >seconds. Boots, and I go to partition the new drive, at which point it tells me 'drives
- >have been added / removed from the system' etc. Ok, so it wasnt sure if something had
- >been added or removed.
- >Win 95's plug and play requires that you specifically specify the new device, or let
- >it spend 20 mins or so looking for it (which a m8 of mine did.... it couldnt find his
- >new HD......)
-
- Absolutely false. I recently added a CDROM to my system. I stuck it
- in, connected it, and turned the machine on. With no interaction on
- my part, it found the CDROM, and I then saw it as another drive
- letter. Case closed.
-
- >I think by now my point is clear. The PC is a better machine than the Amiga.
- >I have no doubt about it, despite being proud of my A4K 030. Its just a shame that
- >PC owners a) refuse to admit that what 95 does, the Amiga has done for years, a whole
- >lot better, at a fraction of the requirements / cost. b) Ok DOOM was, and still is
- >bloody brilliant (despite me being crap at it!). Part of DOOM's success was it being
- >released as PD. People love saving money dont ya know.
-
- The Amiga series of machines is so much more expensive than PCs that
- it isn't even funny.
-
- >When it comes to serious software, the PC leaves the Amiga crying in a corner. The
- >Amiga doesnt know what to do. Reason? The PC is a business / home machine, that Amiga
- >just a home machine. Amiga owning families are not prepared to fork out several hundred
- >pounds for a single database. For several hundred pounds Amiga owners get no end of
- >packages. Ok, they arent as good, but they do their job. Very few Amiga titles cost
- >over 100 pounds. Very few PC titles cost less than 100 pounds! (Not talking games here)
-
- Works '95 is $35. It blows the doors off of Amiga packages.
-
- >There. On that note, I'll finish, before I stray from the point even more. But Kjell
- >Gudim is right. PC technology moves on sooooo fast. My M8s P60 is out of date now too -
- >before the warranty has even expired! But my A4000/030 is still keeping up, despite
- >being almost 3 years old.
-
- Perhaps because Amiga technology really hasn't progressed for 3 years,
- and so software technology really hasn't changed much in that time
- either? Or perhaps because you are happy to ignore just how poorly
- AGA fares next to more modern technology? Or perhaps the new things
- offered in Win95 aren't understood by you?
-
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